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's not done yet, he's okay. and new controversial immigration gun law coming up. can the mexican government have a say how the u.s. deals with illegal immigration? we'll talk to arizona attorney general tom thorn, he weighs in on the ongoing legal battle. >> jamie: plus, a defiant act against president obama's health care law. an update on the u.s. company facing millions of dollars in fines for refusing to comply. >> kelly: and taking a stand in the wake of the tragic school shooting massacre at sandy hook elementary. what some teachers are doing to make their classrooms safer. >> i think that a lot of people have a fear of guns and of what they can do, but i think also that maybe they're not quite educated, that sometimes the only thing we'll talk about is a good guy with a gun. >> and welcome back, everyone, we're following a major challenge to the president's health care law, the arts and crafts chain hobby lobby now saying it will not pro he vied workers with health plans that cover the morning after pill. even though the new health care law requires it. this, after the supreme court
for a big tax decrease off of what will then be current law. >> jared, you've got a post -- i just want to go back for a moment. while this ping-pong game is going on in washington, you've got a post on your blog showing the real drag this is having on consumer confidence. so, i mean, what can the president do to protect the economy and try to restore some degree of confidence while these negotiations are going on? >> i think it's a really great, important question. and i think what he has to do is continue to press for a compromise. i've always been struck by how strong the white house is trying to stand on a couple of measures in the compromise to support the 2013 economy. you just mentioned consumer confidence taking a hit from the cliff. but of course there's millions of people who would lose their unemployment benefits. and the white house has been holding fast on a deal that includes temporary jobs measures for 2015. while the white house can push that as hard as it wants, it remains up to the house republicans to take measures that would actually get this -- turn this more into a
and the treasury department will take extraordinary measures authorized by law. that will create head room under the debt limit. under normal circumstances circs that amount head room would last two months. but it's difficult to predict how long the money will last. where does the money come from? they will raise retirement fund and there is a slush fund from the exchange raid. >> the bigger problem is getting borrowing under control. it puts the nation at risk immediately for a crit downgrade but it means higher taxes and lower standard of living for future generations. doug? >> doug: the stocks fell. the dow lost 18. s&p 500 gave back two. nasdaq down four. >> doug: president george h.w. bush is at a hospital after having a stubborn fever. >> joe biden on hand to swear in brian shot as the hawaii newest senator. he was selected to fill the vacancy. >>> after the attack on benghazi there was widespread speculation some would lose their job after the security failure but it has nod happened. and john kerry's nomination as secretary of state could hang in the balance. peter doocy has the pieces t
. >> politicians pass laws for gun-free school zones, and in doing so, they tell every insane killer in america that schools are the safest place to inflict maximum mayhem with minimum risk. >> do you personally believe, congressman, that gun-free school zones have been invitations to mayhem and that the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun? >> well, i think that when you look at school safety, you've got to put armed guards into the equation. i've made it clear that it should not be a mandatory law that every school has there. there should be local choice but absolutely, i believe that protecting our children with an armed guard who is trained is an important part of the equation. we have two-thirds of our schools or, excuse me, one-third of our schools in america right now with an armed off-duty police officer or resource officer. if you have a choice of sending your child to a school that has that type of protection versus not, i think most people in america would say, let's go to what would be the school that invests in that type of safety and security. >> so when
of the bill, but says he sees no reason not to sign it. the law is a big deal for many americans. nearly a thousand russian children were adopted here in just the last year alone. the move is largely seen as retaliation for a law president obama signed that restricts russian human rights abusers from traveling to the u.s. >>> our fourth story "outfront" tonight, arming our school principals. a proposal by arizona attorney general tom horn to give guns to school principals is gaining some support. horn says school shootings like the one in newtown, county, could be prevented if a school employee were armed and trained to use a gun. at least 36 investigators and three sheriffs are now backing the proposal, including sheriff paul babu of arizona, who's written, "the nra is correct. we need a cop in every school. we have a people problem, not a gun problem." sheriff paul babeu is "outfront" tonight. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, john. >> sheriff, i understand the attractiveness of this proposal, an armed guard, a school member training with a weapon. but let's look at the facts, go
of government where nobody is above the law. where we have an obligation to hold each other accountable. >> president obama was not only honoring a public servant who inspired him personally, but paying homage to a past or a functional one. a past that is a flash in the rear-view mirror of this congress because this is the congress of today. >> as you know, the house did not take up the tax bill last night because we didn't have the votes to pass it. it's not the outcome that i wanted. that was the will of the house. >> it was the will of the house to do nothing? on thursday night, the members of the elected house of representatives decided it would you describe not their will to take a vote on their own leadership's proposal. it would have exempted the first million dollars of income from a tax increase. there was no chance of being passed into law as the president made clear he would veto it. if the speaker's plan b passed the democrat controlled senate. this was a republican proposal. house democrats would not have supported it. democrats couldn't agree to vote on it. instead, they w
of connecticut a similar law to the one adopted here banning assault weapons. this has been a heroin, terrific week in the state of connecticut, culminating in today's moment of silence at 9:30. the end of the week and i spent the better part of the time meeting with first responders, families, going to funerals and wakes and speaking with ordinary people of newtown and the state of connecticut. the refrain i have heard over and over again from newtown and connecticut and all the run the country is you need to do something about the guns. the nra statement today is sadly and shamefully inadequate, calling for more guns and rejecting real action against gun violence. at a defining a historic moment for our nation demanding courageous leadership, the nra has declined to step forward as a credible and constructive partner. the proposal for more armed guards in schools may be helpful in some instances, but it falls short of the strong, serious comprehensive action needed to stop the kind of horrific tragedy that occurred last week. many police that spoke to me on that day when we take a said that
francisco today blocked a ban on gay therapy. governor jerry brown signed the law in september prohibiting gay therapy that aims to turn gay teens straight. it was supposed to go into effect january 1 but today a judge issued an emergency order putting the law on hold till the court hears full arguments. >>> president obama nominated massachusetts senator john kerry to be the next secretary of state. president obama praised him. >> over these many years he earned the respect and confidence of leaders around the world. she not going a need a lot of on the job training. he earned the respect and trust of colleagues. democrats and republicans. >> john kerry is a five term senator and the chair of the senate foreign relations committee and a war veteran. secretary of state hillary clinton could not attend the ceremony. she is recovering from the flu and a concussion from a fall. >>> the christmas holiday began on capitol hill without an agreement reached on how to avoid the fiscal cliff. president obama called on party leaders to take action before he left for his holiday vacation in hawaii. >
. governor jerry brown signed the law in september prohibiting gay therapy that aims to turn gay teens straight. it was supposed to go into effect january 1 but today a judge issued an emergency order putting the law on hold till the court hears full arguments. >>> president obama nominated massachusetts senator john kerry to be the next secretary of state. president obama praised him. >> over these many years he earned the respect and confidence of leaders around the world. she not going a need a lot of on the job training. he earned the respect and trust of colleagues. democrats and republicans. >> john kerry is a five term senator and the chair of the senate foreign relations committee and a war veteran. secretary of state hillary clinton could not attend the ceremony. she is recovering from the flu and a concusussion from a fall. >>> the christmas holiday began on capitol hill without an agreement reached on how to avoid the fiscal cliff. president obama called on party leaders to take action before he left for his holiday vacation in hawaii. >> good afternoon. >> reporter: after s
the violence in connecticut, colorado and other places, but steered the conversation away from guns and gun law. indeed he lambasted officials who want to restrict guns from schools. >> in doing so they tell every insane killer in america that schools are the safest place to inflict maximum mayhem with minimum risk. >> the nra has blood on its hands. >> reporter: despite twice being interrupted by protesters, lapierre went on to blame the media. >> a child growing up in america today witnesses 16,000 murders and 200,000 acts of violence by the time he or she reaches the ripe old age of 18. and does anybody really believe that the next adam lanza isn't planning his attack on a school? he's already identified at this very moment. >> reporter: he announced plans for what he calls a national school shield program, to recruit and train volunteers to thwart such attacks. can you answer one question, mr. keen? but details on how that might work remain unclear. for all their statements, nra officials are still not answering questions. some of this is almost certainly a reminder to congress members all
's self-defense that the society enables through regulations, through laws that have passed, through norms it tries to establish. and one of the big things that is missing from this debate, we can go back and forth and have a conversation about whether armed security would stop anything from happening, didn't help in columbine, but the bigger question is, we as a society, what does this say when you want to put more guns in your place of education, in your place where you send your 5, 6, 7-year-old children? is that the message, the sort of society that we want to be? or do we want to take self-defense before the moment of conflict? do we want to look at legislation? do we want to put policies in place that allow us to defend ourselves before we get to a point where we say, i wish that teacher had it. by the time we get to that point, it was too late. >> hailey, were your surprised by the press conference? >> i have been optimistic for the official statement all week, and i have to say i was very disappointed. i think that their statement was a pretty huge disservice to their membership an
extreme mental illness with several rights laws is a deeper issue than gun control. >host: how should vice president joe biden and the white house address this. mental illness is part of the debate and will be part of the solution. >> i think they really need to look at civil rights laws and be able to intervene more aggressively with mental health professionals when people show a consistent pattern of mental illness. i think you can travel through any city in america and see massive amounts of people who are not capable of taking care of themselves. as a society, we are not humanitarian when we leave them to defend themselves. >host: this argument is not new. it is highlighted in the extensive report in "the washington post." the chair of the senate judiciary committee, joe biden, we will hear from him. the witness testifies and next to him is sarah brady whose husband was shot during the reagan assassination attempt back in 1981, jim brady. still law was named after him. let's take you back to that hearing -- [video clip] >> life is completely shattered. my daughter's life is completely
americans from adopting russia children. i can't believe this happening in retaliation law for cracking down on russia human rights vialators. >> these children are not available to international adoption until after they have been on a domestic registry for eight months n our son's case, 22 families, russia families came to see him and rejected him because of his blood line. >> julia: this woman was on o'rielly and laura ingraham was hosted it . she had adopted two russian children. she doesn't know if they will see the boy. they have gone over there constantly to get close to the little boy. more than 60,000 russian children have been taken in by americans in the past two decades. massive winter storm that killed 16 people so far continues to move over the northeast. it is expected to head into canada today as many travelers are trying to get home after christmas. they had flights cancelled all over the place and delaying 8000 more. many northwest states saw a foot of snow . in vermont, 21 inches. hard-hit arkansas, 200,000 homes and businesses lost power. the bush family said, put away th
ban better, any more effective? >> you want one more law on top of 20,000 laws. most of the federal gun laws we don't even adhere to. >> the other big story in washington, nine days until the fiscal cliff and no deal in sight with the president and congress home for the holidays, today key senators from both sides weigh in on the prospects of ayn greem before new year's. >> you know, if you look at the final positions last monday of both the president and speaker boehner, they were this close. they were this close to a solution. >> if he were to say and the president were to say we're going to pass a bill, with a majority of democrats and majority of republicans in the house and senate, we could get a mainstream bill. >> if you want leaders, you have to lead. the president's been a pathetic fiscal leader. he's produced three budgets and can't get one vote for any of them. boehner will be tip o'neill, obama needs to be reagan. i would vote for revenues including tax rate hikes, even though i don't like them, to stave country from becoming greece. >> today, despite the president being
time this abuse has happened. american center for law and justice was able to free an iranian pastor . joining us now the districtor jordan sekolow. thanks for joining us. thanks for having me, uma. >> we'll t about the pastor who is held there simply by the fact that he's a christian. >> he's 32 years old and in the worst prison and and since picked up in july on the iranian border and his whole family is under house arrest will he's beaten and fortured and a convert fromy islam because of his faith. he made an agreement that he would no longer run the house churches it is since he's been to iran nine times it is it an orfan age. but this time the guard got involved and so he's been interrogated and treated like a national security threat. that is the same kind of a charge that iran tried to levy against the pastor usef. it is death unless you peek out. this is an american citizen. our state department has acknowledged that now why did it take so long for them to acacupon knowledge -- acknowledge he was there. fox news broke the story with the information and we got that attention a
with the law, secretary clinton ordered this review to determine exactly what happened in benghazi. that is how we can learn and improve. i want to convey our appreciation to ambassador pickering, admiral mullen and 13. -- their team. in the hours and days after the terrorist attacks, at the secretary's direction, which took immediate steps to protect people and our post. we launched a worldwide review of the overall security posture. interagency teams give particular scrutiny to high threat posed. the pentagon agreed to dispatch additional marines to post around the world. we asked congress for funds to hire new diplomatic security personnel. we're updating our diplomat procedures to increase the number of experienced and well- trained staffs serving at those posts. tom and i will be discussing all this work and more with congress tomorrow. for now, let me make one other point. i have been a proud member of the foreign service for more than 30 years. i've had the honor of serving as a chief of mission overseas. i know that diplomacy by its very nature must sometimes be practiced in dangerous p
news conference in washington. here is the ceo. take a listen? >> politicians pass laws for gun free school zones. they issue press releases bragging about them. they post signs advertising them. in doing so they tell every insane killer in america that schools are the safest place to inflict maximum mayhem with minimum risk. >> gregg: susan, even some conservative groups ripped into him and the nra. here is one of them. he delivered a strident rant that made even his generally sensible idea about ramping up security at schools sound idiotic. by refusing to contemplate small changes in existing laws the nra lost it's a chance to get back in the debate other than the terms of villain of the murder of innocents. was that kind of a prsmtd disaster that may have backfired and galvanized support in favor of new gun laws? >> it was p.r. disaster but how much is that going to matter on what we see for gun control in the coming years. i don't believe it will be possible to move a bill through congress and pass it that bans any kind of weapons. simply because we have a divided congress and ho
no people were injured. gregg: yeah, there you go. heather: with the new year comes more than 200 new laws going on the books and trace will be back with that and a breakdown for us. gregg: just when you thought it was over, new warnings of another little storm heading for the storm-ravaged northeast. we'll get a live report in minutes. heather: and new controversy over a move by russia's president that critics say is playing politics with the lives of orphans. what it could mean for americans who want to adopt overseas. our legal panel debates. i greg: welcome back. jenna: a fox extreme weather alert. this is no system bringing heavy wind and rain and snow to the northeast for dumping as much as 1.5 feet of snow on new york and pennsylvania. after devastating parts of the golf coast with tornadoes speak to the system is moving slowly north. but don't put away the snow shovels yet. there is another storm on the way. jenna: maria molina joins us with the very latest. reporter: you guys are right. we have another snow system that will dump a lot more snow over the northeast, and it actually
that governing is a shared responsibility between both parties in this congress laws can only pass with support from democrats and republicans, and that means nobody gets 100 percent of what they want. lou: there are only ten days remaining tothe fiscal cliff. president obama headed to value within actually minutes, and members of congress have also gone home for chrrstmas vacation already. in a news conference today, speaker boehner admitted negotiations wh the president ha, indeed, been difficult. >> until the president on monday, these are my bottom lines. the president told me that his numbers, $1 trillion in new revenues, 850 billion in spending cuts was his bottom-line. he could not go any further. lou: and he didn't. the plan be option collapsing last night when he failed to get republican support to raise taxes on only those making more than a million dollars a year. over in the senate majority leader harry reipounced on the very public embarrassing defeat. >> we knew the so-called plan b was no plan at al. it could not pass the senate. it turns out, it could not pass the house either.
laws for gun free school zones. they issue press releases bragging about them. they post signs advertising them appeared in doing so, they tell every insane killer in america that schools are the safest place to inflict maximum mayhem with minimum risk. >> harris: lapierre then called on congress to put an armed officer in every school by next month when kids go back after the holidays. protesters disrupted his comments at least twice today. one of them claiming the nra has blood on its hands. james rosen live in washington tonight. james, there was an overarching point today that lapierre was making. what was it? >> well, he cited the presence of armed and trained security officers, harris at banks, courthouses, power plants, defense installations and also the presence of firearms being carried by the secret service in and capitol police to protect the president and all of our lawmakers. >> what if when adam lanza started shooting his way into sandy hook elementary school last friday he had been confronted by qualified armed security? will you at least admit it's possible that
steps. but in 10 days, we face a deadline. in 10 days, under current law, tax rates are scheduled to rise on most americans. and even though democrats and republicans are arguing about whether those rates should go up for the wealthiest individuals, all of us, every single one of us, agrees that tax rates should not go up for the other 98% of americans, which includes 97% of small businesses. every member of congress believes that. every democrat. every republican. so there is absolutely no reason not to protect these americans from a tax hike. but the very least, let us agree right now on what we already agree on. let us get that done. i just spoke to speaker boehner and met with senator reid. i have asked congress to work on a package that prevents a tax hike on middle-class americans, protect unemployment insurance for 2 million americans, and lays the groundwork for further work on growth and deficit reduction. that is an achievable goal. that can get done in 10 days. once this legislation is agreed to, i expect democrats and republicans to get back to washington and have it p
in the house so it's got no chance whatsoever of becoming law, end quote. that's what i said back on july 25th. the only reason we ever allowed that vote on that proposal is i said at that time was that we knew it didn't pass constitutional muster. and the democrats were really serious, they would proceed to a revenue bill that originated in the house as the constitution requires and as i called on them to do again last week. to repeat, the so-called nate bill is nothing more than a glorified sense of the senate resolution. so let's put that convenient talking point aside from here on out. last night i told the president we'd be happy to look at whatever he proposes but the truth is we're coming up against a hard deadline here and, as i said, this is a conversation we should have had months ago. and republicans aren't about to write a blank check or anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. that wouldn't be fair to the american people. that having been said, we'll see what the president has to propose. members on both sides of the aisle will
to compromise. >> senator lindsey graham was "meet the press this morning. >> we are one law away from solving this problem. this problem runs deep and wide. i live in south carolina and chuck lives in new york. i understand how he was brought up. maybe he tries to understand how i was rabrought up. people where i live i have been christmas shopping have been coming up to me, please don't let the government take my guns away. >> how realistic do you think that is? >> chuck is my boss. anything chuck says absolutely 100%. >> who said there wasn't politics on the show today? >> it's a rhetorical question because president obama himself has mentioned on the streets of chicago you need one set of gun rules and in wyoming maybe it is something else. i think we have seen that kind of regionalization of laws. connecticut had an assault weapons ban that didn't prevent this tragedy from happening and didn't outlaw the kind of gun you would want to be outlawed for that kind of tragedy. i don't know that the federal government will be able to slice and dice. it will be very difficult and very close if th
to washington and have it pass both chambers. i will immediately sign that legislation into law before january 1 of next year. >> congresswoman, with time running out, can the house come back after christmas and pass a bill, any bill to avoid the fiscal cliff? >> well, alex, i'm one of the vote counters for the democrats. i sent a letter to speaker boehner yesterday. you need to you a ban don the idea that you have to have a majority of the majority to pass legislation. in other words, speaker boehner said here's my plan. and forget you, democrats, and i'm just going to pass it with my caucus and then -- his tea party rebelled against him. what i think he should do, come to the democratic leadership, put together a coalition in the middle, moderate republicans, moderate democrats, and we could come to an agreement and we could pass it. this idea that -- >> where might that agreement come? i'm going to ask my director to put up we have would full screens on the basics. where there are areas that could be discussed for some level of commonality. where do you think that might come, that compromise?
for new gun control laws but little from the nra until now. in a bizarre meeting, the head of the nra said the solution to gun vie lerchs in this country is simple. more guns. armed officers, in fact, in every school. it's the same line we've heard from nra, but has the country's relationship with guns fundamentally changed since newtown? and what we saw is yet another symptom of a real problem for the gop. they don't believe in compromise and they've lurched too far to the right. >>> plus replacing hillary clinton, john kerry gets the job he's waited for his whole life. president obama tapped john kerry as the next secretary of state. >>> and let me finish with the new movie about getting bin laden and how one person can make a huge difference. >>> we begin with the fiscal cliff. david corn is the editor of mother cliff. gentlemen, president obama tonight said he had spoken with speaker boehner in addition to meeting with senate majority leader harry reid. >> i just spoke to speaker boehner, and i also met with senator reid. in the next few days, i've asked leaders of congress to work tow
says it should be used to fix crumbling roads and bridges and military and law enforcement. john wants to know why is it that any time the need to cut spending is up the only thing talked about is social security, medicare and defense. thanks for your responses. "fox news sunday" coming up next. we leave you with sand santas. artists in india carved more than 500 sand sculptures of santa claus to protect the development. have a merry christmas, everybody. >>> i'm chris wallace. talks to avert the fiscal cliff sal and washington debates how to prevent more mass murders. with nine days to go, is it still possible to make a deal to head off big tax increases and spending cuts? captioned by closed captioning services, inc. , republican john borasso and democrat kent conrad. >> as the nation mourns the victims of a newtown school shooting we turn to a man of faith for some answers. in these trying times he sees the need for a spiritual awakening. we will discuss the sandy hook massacre and the meaning of christmas. plus, a change at the state department as the benghazi report is finally rel
of gun laws in the world. when looking internationally, it is obvious that the one feature of america that would explain why we have so much more gun violence than the rest of the world is that we have incredibly permissive laws allowing the sale and possession of guns. with 5% of the world's population, we have 50% of the world's guns. we also have evidence that tightening laws, even in high videoistic countries with traditions of gun ownership, can and does reduce gun violence. in australia after a 1996 ban on all automatic and semiautomatic weapons, a real ban, not like the one we did in 1994 which had 600 plus exemptions, after that ban, gun-related homicides dropped by 59% over the next decade. all the evidence points in the same direction. there will always be evil or disturbed people and they might be influenced by some violent popular culture. but how is the government going to identify the darkest thoughts in people's minds before they do anything? what government can do easily, however, is make it much harder for these people to have access to guns. a few hours before the ne
laws. underscoring that plea, a gunman killed three people today west of harrisburg, pennsylvania. he was killed later in a shootout with state troopers. since the attack, the nra has been the subject of heavy criticism, but its leaders had refused to do any interviews before this weekend, including the newshour. the group broke its near silence in washington, d.c., this morning. vice president wayne lapierre would not answer any questions, but he read a nearly 25-minute- long statement that called for armed guards in every school. here are excerpts of what he said. he was interrupted twice by protesters. >> the national rifle association's four million mothers, fathers, sons and daughters join the nation in horror, outrage, grief and earnest prayer for the families of newtown, connecticut, who have suffered such incomprehensible loss as a result of this unspeakable crime. for all the noise and anger directed at us over the past week, no one-- nobody-- has addressed the most important, pressing and immediate question we face: how do we protect our children right now, starting today, i
association any attempt to time the gun laws, to do what even the international association of police chiefs says is a good idea, to ban these military-style assault weapons? will you oppose that? will you continue to oppose that? >> we will continue to oppose a ban on semiautomatic weapons that are used for perfectly legitimate purposes. these aren't military weapons. if we equipped our army with the ar-15 we'd be beaten by every third world-- you know, every third world dictatorship in the country. military weapons fully automatic weapons and that's illegal. you don't get those. that's not what we're talking about. the impression often is, bob, that is what we're talking about, but it isn't. we're talking about sporting arms-- you know the ar-15 is the highest selling-- >> schieffer: how many rounds can these weapons discharge, say, in five seconds? >> well, they fire when you put trigger. >> schieffer: sure and they keep firing. >> just as your shotgun-- not your shotgun bout most shotguns do. >> they don't keep firing. that's a fully automatic weapon. these are not fully automatic weapon
in every school in america, and, are there any laws you could support, in terms of assault guns, assault rifles, in terms of high capacity magazines, tightening background checks, any new gun controls you could support. >> let's step back for a second. i'm a doctor, i'm a father of three. and, i'm from wyoming. a state where we believe strongly in our 2nd amendment rights. we are the people of wyoming, me, personally, are still absolutely committed to filed real solutions that work. so, something like this tragedy never happens again. three more of those children were laid to rest, yesterday. >> chris: i'm asking a specific question. >> very, very, very... very, very hurtful to all of us in this country. i think decisions about schools ought to be made at the local level. i would not want a national effort to say you have to do this in schools. i think local education decisions are best made at the local level. you know, we're going to have a very spirited discussion in congress, in the beginning of next year. we need to look at all of the issues, because what wayne lapierre and the pres
shooting in american history. does the tragedy in connecticut mean the country needs new gun laws? we'll have a fair & balanced look next. so, this board gives me rates for progressive direct and other car insurance companies? yes. but you're progressive, and they're them. yes. but they're here. yes. are you...? there? yes. no. are you them? i'm me. but those rates are for... them. so them are here. yes! you want to run through it again? no, i'm good. you got it? yes. rates for us and them -- now that's progressive. call or click today. jamie: this just in. the u.s. marine veteran who spent four months behind bars in one of mexico most violent prisons is now home. this is my favorite christmas story because jon hammar was jailed in deplorable conditions on a questionable gun charge in mexico. he was taken to a u.s. hospital with flu-like symptoms. just arriving back at his family's home in florida. that is where steve harrigan is live in palmetto bay, florida. steve, what a christmas gift for this family. >> reporter: jamie, it was rashable to see here, four or five minutes ago
in just the past few minutes we learned a federal appeals court put on hold a new state law that's intended to prevent therapists from trying to change a minor's sexual orientation. a process known as conversion therapy. the state said that therapy is ineffective and dangerous. a judge panel agreed to block the law. breaking news that we're just getting. more information as we get it. >>> we bring you so many stories about mothers who have lost their children to violence. rob roth shows us how for them life does go. amid the difficult days there sometimes comes a day like today. >> reporter: this was the day to be pampered and perhaps set aside anguish if only for a few hours. >> it's like a vacation. >> reporter: valiry is part of a club no one wants to be in. each has lost a child to homicide. this mother has buried four of her children. all died violently. >> there are times i cried my eyes almost out. >> reporter: today she could relax a little. she along with the other mothers here are members of the healing circle. >> that makes me feel good. i have not had my nails done in
adjudicated mentally incompetent by a court of law should be prevented from owning guns. as discussions continue in the weeks ahead, and i know they will, we're going to have many, many discussions in the weeks ahead, we'll take our responsible place at any gathering that seeks meaningful solutions in this country as long as they do not erode even a little bit the freedoms this association exists to protect. >> that was as far as they have ever been willing to go in the past. that was when wayne lapierre at the nra conference in 1999, not two weeks after the columbine shootings. that is what they said was their meaningful contribution back then to support something that was already the law. this is what the nra does, puts the blame on everyone and every thing other than the one thing they do not want to talk about, which is guns. joining us now is councilman ricky burgess from the ninth district, which includes homewood, an area that has had more than its share of lives lost to gun violence. we visited last may when the nra held its annual convention in his hometown of pittsburgh. counc
used in crimes that would be not law-abiding gun use. they would support amendments to carry guns on amtrak, national parks and bars and what i would call the notorious stand your ground legislation. do you think that agenda, if it has more exposure in this debate, i mean if the president read off those things in the state of the union, do you think that would drive a wedge between the average gun owner and the nra's national agenda? >> it would start a debate. look, it's not the job of reporters to carry one side of an argument. if the nra is making an argument and no one is making one against them, it has a consequence for the debate. what the gun control side has lacked for a long time is a powerful grassroots group that actually has the muscle and the money to force the conversation, to force leaders and lawmakers and presidents to talk about it. so you don't have a solution or problems -- >> i think we're abdicating responsibility there. we talk about, you know, far right and left and act like we're having a balanced debate. it's rare we go through statistics and teach the su
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